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【采访】ODA谈小普的跳跃

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在一篇Nobunari ODA的访谈中,记者和ODA谈到小普的跳跃:
(完整的英文访谈见:japanskates.com/interviews/Nobunari/Nobunari_2012_Interview_en.htm)


IP属地:比利时1楼2012-03-15 03:00回复
    对04欧锦那套节目的分析,很有意思
    2004 EURO Evgeni Plushenko FS"Tribute to Nijinsky":
    Sacred poetry in dancing, genuine dedication for Vaslav Nijinsky, a Russian ballet dancer and choreographer, such an artist, who would never be seen this world. Plushenko opened the program with 4T-3T-2Lo effortlessly, but the next two 3As were going off the track, the first was derailed at its takeoff (1A fall), the second got singled as well, yet he did the third 3A - where he planned 3Lz - his majesty was demonstrated as 3A-3T-2Lo, though, immediately after that, at the landing of less-preparation 3F his hands touched down. Collage of motion Nijinsky, touches were printed onto the ice, he was flashing in transitions and footworks. Following 3Lz, 3Lo, combination spin with Biellmann, he refilled his program, then made it glow - after a spiral in Biellmann position, at planned 3S, he ran a 3A off! Also, his gutsy attending replaced 3S(doubled) in the last transition for the last spin, that was a testament to the pride. Dadaism could be seen through a kaleidoscope, his changing positions of spins.
    尼金斯基是舞蹈中美丽的诗篇,是向俄罗斯杰出的芭蕾舞蹈家和编舞家尼金斯基致敬的节目。普鲁申科在节目开始轻松地完成了4T-3T-2LO,但接下来的两个3A则出现了失误。第一次是在起跳的时候出现问题,跳成1A并摔倒,第二个3A也跳成1A了。即便如此,他在计划跳3Lz的地方做了第三个3A,他做了 3A-3T-2LO。然而,紧接其后的3F由于落冰准备不足,他手扶了冰。之后是尼金斯基标志性动作的集锦,大量的衔接和步伐。之后3Lz,3LO,在有Biellmann的联合旋转组合后,在计划跳3S的地方,他跳了一个3A! 而在大胆地使用3S(跳成了2s ) 作为进入最后一组旋转的衔接动作,这是他要证明自己尊严的举动。从他的旋转变换姿态可以通过一个万花筒看出达达主义(这点儿就完全不明白了)。
    


    IP属地:比利时3楼2012-03-15 03:07
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      JS:斯拉夫人,比如俄罗斯运动员,他们可以非常精确。当然,他们必须控制的体力。他们的准确性是真棒!
      NO: He matches himself with its timing, ultimately. I have always gotten inspired when I see his 3A, "...Oh, my."
      NO:他对时间的把握是终极水平的。每次我看到他的3A都会被激励,“…,我的天。”
      JS: So, he does always with 4T timing, too?
      JS:那么他的4T的时间把握也是这样的?
      NO: I have watched all the Plushenko's 4T, so far,
      NO:我观看了普鲁申科到目前为止跳的所有4T。
      JS: ALL!? SO FAR!?
      JS:全部?到目前为止?
      NO: (laughs) All is done with the same timing!
      NO:(笑)全部跳跃所用的时间都是一样的!
      JS: Oh, my.
      JS:噢,我的上帝。
      NO: (before takeoff) Entering from the right back outside edge to rotating, that is done with the same timing. He never waits for its timing!
      NO:(在起跳之前)从右边外刃起跳旋转(这里我翻译得可能不准确,反正ODA这里在谈4T动作),所用的时间都是一样的。他从来不去等待起跳的时机!
      JS: He matches himself,
      JS:他使自己的动作,
      NO: - with timing!
      NO:和时间契合
      JS: Then, he can fix collapsed motion in the air, with his body control, as well.
      JS:然后,他还可以控制自己的身体,在空中矫正不好的姿态。
      NO: uh-huh. I have waited for its timing, for a few tenths of "frame (=1/30sec) ", when I get tensed.
      NO:嗯。当我感到紧张的时候,我得等待起跳时机,大概得要几帧(1/30秒)图的时间。
      JS: uh-huh, its timing is divided by 0.01 sec, among the sports,
      JS:嗯,在运动中,时间是以0.01秒级来划分的,
      NO: but I wait, when I can't wait! - that no one but myself can sense!
      NO:但是有时在我不能等的时候我得等! -这个只有我自己能感觉到!
      JS: - that sense, I can sense, too!
      JS:那种感觉,我也能体会到!
      NO: I sense "I'm waiting, I'm waiting for its timing!"
      NO:我感到“我在等待,我在等待正确的时间!”
      JS: Yes, you sense "it's incorrect timing," have to wait.
      JS:是的,你感到“这不是正确的时间,”那么必须要等待。
      NO: Yes, it happens!
      NO:是的,这发生过!
      JS: ...Such lovely dialogue happens to this interview!, which should be loved by all the sports fan!
      JS:…这段对话真是非常美好!很多体育粉丝们肯定都会喜欢看到的!
      NO: (laughs) In any mental condition, I must match myself with "my own timing".
      NO:(笑)不管精神状态是怎样的,我都必须让我和“我自己的时间”契合。
      


      IP属地:比利时5楼2012-03-15 03:08
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        ODA太可爱了!!



        IP属地:比利时6楼2012-03-15 03:09
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          这么看来,猴子的脑子在作专业研究的时候还是很够用的啊,对跳跃中节奏和效率的讲解非常深入浅出,还发现了普“所有4T所用时间完全相等”这样的终极定律。可是,为什么一到赛场上脑子就总出错呢,唉


          IP属地:浙江7楼2012-03-15 03:35
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            那些3A,真就是上帝的礼物啊,看起来都那么从容而美丽,不光观众赏心悦目,别的运动员也会很羡慕吧
            猴子真是认真,竟然看了所有的4T,还得出了起跳时间都一样的结论。我没有这么细致的比对过,不过回忆一下,每次小普的4T都给人以动作规范、分寸拿捏准确的感觉,这大概就是对于自己的技术有充足把握,以及精确度尽在掌握的竞技高水平和气质吧


            8楼2012-03-15 05:25
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              猴子的评论真可爱。


              IP属地:上海来自手机贴吧11楼2012-03-15 08:56
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                猴子说的4T起跳时间是从普进入转3时算起?这段时间普的节奏把握的确和其他男单都不太一样,但是3A的起跳时间我就看不出什么了,尤其是他现在前面又加了步法,= =


                13楼2012-03-15 09:12
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                  这个跳跃的时间控制一直也觉得很有规律 不过猴子还真是深入分析过啊 啧啧


                  IP属地:江苏14楼2012-03-15 11:00
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                    嗯嗯,我也一直认为小普的3A是看着最舒服、最轻盈、最流畅的,不像很多选手进入时使很大的力躬身、屈腿、摔胳膊!教科书般的3A啊!


                    15楼2012-03-15 12:29
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                      IP属地:浙江16楼2012-03-15 13:54
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                        猴子膝盖有伤还在恢复,尼斯不参加了


                        IP属地:浙江17楼2012-03-15 13:54
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                          表演艺术与视觉艺术相互融合的状况是达达主义吧


                          IP属地:浙江18楼2012-03-15 14:00
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                            不知道,没有查
                            不过能从04欧锦最后旋转看出这些,也是神人


                            IP属地:比利时19楼2012-03-15 14:37
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